I'm a big fan of using technology to enhance flight safety and particularly in the area of conspicuity.  I've been doing a lot of flying lately using Pilot Aware, Sky Echo and SafeSky.

The most contacts you will see is using Pilot aware but Pilot aware does not put out ADSB if you need it to do that.

The next best is Safesky and finally the least you will see is using Skyecho with contacts showing on Skydemon.

Now when i use Safesky alongside Skydemon using the GDL90 option then brilliant I have all those Safesky contacts showing on my Skydemon app. However to do that I have to use the GDL90 device option when i "Fly", ie my phone as the GPS source. The problem now is if i loose my phone signal then Skydemon doesn't know where it is.

So to my question and point! Can Skydemon allow us to have Skydemon traffic showing using the GDL90 protocol but allow us in the app to use say Skyecho for the GPS?

This would be a perfect sollution at a very affordable price to enhance flight safety. I'm told you can do this Skydemon but are possibly being a little reluctant to do this as you don't like the use of mobile phones for this purpose? Please correct me if i'm wrong?

I have been using Safesky for months and it is brilliant. I see aircraft where they are and not where they were 30secs ago and for my kind of flying around the UK at up to around 3000ft have never lost 4g mobile phone coverage.

Currently i run Safesky on a seperate ipad on other side of my cockpit and it works a treat tethered to my phone but it would be so much better running inside Skydemon.

Please look at allowing this integration into your software using seperate GPS as it can only lead to enhanced flight safety.

I would ask others if you feel the same to please support this post and if you haven't already tried Safesky then download it and give it a try, it's free! However if you want to be able to use it in Skydemon then there's a modest yearly fee of around £25 i think.

Hello pilots,

There is an interesting article in Flyer in August about this setup with SkyDemon: https://flyer.co.uk/review/top-gear-safesky-september-2022/

Fly Safe everyone

Hi Tristan

Thank you for your very interesting post and link to the Flyer article which I read.

So far I'm flying using SkyDemon connected to Sky Echo II. Can you briefly explain your concrete connection setup if you add SafeSky to the mix? I read in the Flyer article that both SafeSky and SkyDemon (the devices they are running on, respectively) can be connected to Sky Echo at the same time and exchange data through that connection. Are you using it that way or in a different setup? I assume SafeSky needs an Internet connection to a) generall work and get the desired data and b) feed the data to Sky Demon (or does it do that locally over the Sky Echo Wifi as well?).

For Sky Demon I use an iPad Mini 5 and the iPad connects to the Sky Echo II WiFi (no Internet over that connection, obviously). What's the best setup now to add SafeSky? Should it run on the iPad as well and if so, does it work being connected to Sky Echo via WiFi and still have Internet connection for SafeSky via the mobile network? The Flyer article suggests you can also run SafeSky on your Smartphone with mobile Internet connection and have both the Smartphone and the tablet be connected to Sky Echo over Wifi and that should work. 

Sorry for all the questions, I'm really excited about combining Sky Echo and SafeSky for traffic information (and GPS from Sky Echo) in Sky Demon.

Happy flying!